Gambas ONE

Thanks Cogier, Ill have a look at this, trouble is there is too much japanese knot weed!

With Cogiers help you'll soon crack this Bill , he's an expert on this sort of thing , you should see his "Snapshot" app.
waaay beyond my capabilities lol.

no notions are foolish, it's all just part of the game we play
Best of luck

Thank you so much cogier, drawingarea1.screenx-mouse.screenx etc does the trick.
Don't know why I didn't think of it.
Now I need to find a way of getting rid of those pesky japanese knotweeds!